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Re: WHAT IS GOING ON IN ENGLAND AND REST OF EUROPE

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I thought Trump was going to ban them if he gets in. Or has he toned down the rhetoric on that? I don't see how it would be enforceable anyway.

The US may have to storm the beaches of normandy again

Re: WHAT IS GOING ON IN ENGLAND AND REST OF EUROPE

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Most of the world is in big trouble and most people are slaves to the system, until everyone wakes up (probably won't happen until too late) nothing will change.

We are all controlled by a few, just most don't even realise it.
Well said! The people are the problem because they are too easily duped. But whenever we try to alert a fellow citizen that somebody is enslaving them the sheeple then turn on us, attempt to ridicule us and become overly hostile to the point of excommunicating or imposing emotional/physical abuse. And this could be in light of superior evidence that results in Cognitive Dissonance on their part. So, once again, the ignorant people are the problem since most humans are evil, easily controlled, and driven by power more than truth - due to emotional wounds developed from childhood. When you see somebody offering to carry a woman's luggage or help an old lady across the road, don't assume they are good - they do it to feed their ego and get a good feeling inside. Likewise they mix up good with evil so that their evil blows are more confusing and effective - alternate doses of venom. The populace will never wake up because they are part of the problem.

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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

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Thanks Celt, Tuddi!

I am also trying to find logical place to start, but still having problem when to stop and should I take new 1x in new bets...

-Nextyear

I add in the unhits when I am betting right up to, and including, spin 25.

-Celtic

Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

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Here is the payout sheet for Nottos Jackpot247 1Jun16 numbers.

-Celtic

Code: [Select]
JACKPOT247   1JUN16								
Bet Repeats using G.U.T., Averages, Count
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 8
2 19
3 10
4 1
5 8 R1
6 27
7 13
8 33
9 12
10 15
11 33 R1
12 17
13 15 R1
14 6
15 11
16 34
17 25
18 29
19 31
20 35 13 1 13 -13 -13
21 22 14 2 28 -28 -41
22 29 R1 15 3 45 108 63 22
23 25 R1 14 2 28 72 44 66
24 9 13 1 13 -13 53
25 3 14 2 28 -28 25
26 6 R1 15 3 45 108 63 88         --- Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
27 35 R1 14 2 28 72 44 132
28 29 R2 13 1 13 -13 119
29 15 R2 13 2 26 -26 93
30 25 R2 13 3 39 -39 54
31 17 R1 13 4 52 144 92 146
32 29 R3 12 3 36 -36 110
33 12 R1 12 4 48 144 96 206
34 34 R1 11 3 33 108 75 281
35 3 R1 10 2 20 72 52 333
36 18 9 1 9 -9 324
37 26 9 2 18 -18 306
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated
Rx Designates numbers Repeated but not bet on

Re: WHAT IS GOING ON IN ENGLAND AND REST OF EUROPE

Re: !! 17 !! 18 !! 19 !! 20 !!

Re: WHAT IS GOING ON IN ENGLAND AND REST OF EUROPE

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Well I sure aint gonna hate all Long distance Truck drivers just because the Yorkshire Ripper was one.

I hate Man united and am a long life Man City fan, but that hatred is virtual and I never let it get out of my mind into reality.

Some football fans do, and go round beating up the opposing sides fans and organise fights.

Is football the cause?

Not in the slightest.

Agreed. But why are there no Christian/Buddhist/Jewish/Hindu  terrorists? (or at least comparatively few). There's undeniably a connection between what their "good" book says and the behaviour of some, but there's no connection between truck driving and serial murdering. It just annoys me that the PC brigade deny any connection.

Re: WHAT IS GOING ON IN ENGLAND AND REST OF EUROPE

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Agreed. But why are there no Christian/Buddhist/Jewish/Hindu  terrorists? (or at least comparatively few). There's undeniably a connection between what their "good" book says and the behaviour of some, but there's no connection between truck driving and serial murdering. It just annoys me that the PC brigade deny any connection.

Agreed, and its about interpretation I guess, and whos interpreting it, and for what purpose.

Rather like Jehovah's Witnesses and blood transfusion. Thats an interpretation of a book that other followers of the same book didnt interpret the same.

I am no Quran expert, but it may be more ambiguous and more open to interpretation...I dont know. I do know that the Quran does acknowledge other prophets such as Jesus.

Buddhism is known for passing information (Bible) through word of mouth and short sutras....so perhaps its less study and more practice, with less room for interpretation. Its just what it is.

Having said all that, the Crusades are still in the top list of heinous campaigns...all in the name of God

Re: WHAT IS GOING ON IN ENGLAND AND REST OF EUROPE

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Why do these migrants think that they can just go anywhere they like and do what they like.   Because politicians do nothing to stop them, that is until there is a public outcry and by then it is too late as witness what is happening right now across Europe and UK.  It is OK by me having a few immigrants but we are being swamped by them and the worst part is that a lot of them do not speak English and have no intention of integrating: they only want to change things to their ways: eg  Sharia Law.  Why do Muslims not go to other Muslim countries.  This has always puzzled me.  Some migrants are reportedly paying £5000 and even up to  £12000 to reach UK and have passed through at least 5 safe countries to get here they they cannot claim to be asylum seekers.  They all have mobile phones and decent clothing.   Whatever financial benefit they bring is more than wiped out by the costs of providing all the necessary services to them and then their is all the crooks and sex traffickers mainly from Albania and Romania not to mention beggars. Many of these people are working in the black economy and are claiming benefits at the same time.  There are plenty of records of murderers and sex offenders plus terrorists being found in the UK.  We cannot deport them due to EU court rules and they are a leach on our society for years and years. I only see 100 million more immigrants from Middle East and Africa wanting to come to Europe over d the next few years.  I AM VOTING LEAVE in the referendum but even if Leave wins I doubt that it is now far too late do very much to halt the tide.  I am moving to USA!!!!!

Re: follow the split flow

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Just be careful. Long progression required long recovery on a bust.

You gained 70....still 430 to go to be safe.
So highest was step 54.

Keep us updated pls
btw using the same trigger will make it lose. Try a few others along the way  :thumbsup:

Re: Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

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I'm assuming as this thread is still going that this system hasn't come un stuck as of yet? I havnt done any testing as I am testing something different at the minute but this is 100% next on my list. I think playing either Dozens or Columns wouldn't make much difference as they both hold 3/1 odds. Could we not play both Dozens and columns at the same time?  This way when/if you do lose you will only lose 1unit

Example:-

Column 2,3 & Dozen 2,3

Column 1,3 & Dozen 1,3

Column 1,2 & Dozen 1,2

If either the un played column or dozen hits on the specified spin the we lose 1u but if we win the spin we win 2u

Let's say we are playing with 10u chips

Dozens only- stake 20u
win 10u
Lose 20u

Column and Dozen-stake 40u
Win 20u
Lose 10u
LOSE 40u


If 1st spin was Dozen 2 and column 3 then we would play
 
Dozen 1,2
Column 2,3

I hope what I have written is understandable? And feedback would be good


Is NOT following on from my last comment. Just looking to clear this up as no doubt this issue has already been discussed.


If a mini game is 3spins and we are ending a mini game after a win (A win is only ever 1unit) and watching the remaining spin/s virtually, Then we would need 26 winning mini games to every 1 losing mini game. Mini game lose of 3step progression (1,3,9) = total lose of -26units

3spins per mini game x 26 mini games = 78spins.

I am sure people can see what I am getting at. This needs to be played continually in order to out way lose with profits.

If I enter the table and the last dozen to show was Dozen 2 do I bet that Dozen 3 wont be out next or do I enter with a 'clean slate' and bet against 1,2,3?

If I bet against 1,2,3. Which means for the first spin I am betting Dozens 2 and 3. Lets says Dozen 2 shows. Could I start the 1,2,3. Betting trail again straight away? This way your making the most of every spin.

Re: Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

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Yes. That is the issue

A loss may not happen so often but it requires 26 wins to recover

Thats why i wait for unique then bet against the unique repeating

123123123 does not happen often at all and u actually may never see that

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Re: KTF

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Notto

On this particular game you talk about ktf.
Looking at the table theres no where in this play where you could win. Its a loss from the on set basically. Have i missed something here.? Please correct me if Im incorrect.

Not sure how you can say this loses when the payout table is right in front of you. :question:

Once you are deep in the hole it really is a massive struggle to gain anything from it.
 --- Agreed but that is why it is called KTF

Personally i see if you are not in profit by spin 30 its getting more risky by each spin. Personally its 2-5 spins and exit.

--- If you play less than 60 spins then you are not following the KTF rules and therefore not playing KTF. By playing only 2-5 spins you are again changing the rules so you are not playing KTF.

I made several thousand dollars with KTF before they changed the wheel at my B&M and now the new replacement wheels do not allow enough time to place bets or else I would still be playing it. I only lost once and that was because, like you, I changed a rule and quit before the full 60 spins had been played. I quit with a -8 loss but would have ended up in profit if I had continued as I should have.

I think in most cases people want to play KTF but look for a way to play it with a small BR  --- That is a BIG MISTAKE!!!

-Celtic


Thanks

Re: KTF

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-Notto

For those that will not read prior postings in this tread would you please answer two questions:

1) How many Jackpot games of KTF have been played?
2) How many games have been lost??

Thank You.

-Celtic

Re: Greetings from Holland

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Re: Greetings from Holland

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hup holland hup  ;D welcome neighbour
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