LOL THAT´S IT YOU´RE OUT
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Re: Crossroads
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Re: Crossroads
LOL THAT´S IT YOU´RE OUTOK I'll watch from the sidelines... if your system wins then I'll be back otherwise you might not hear from me again...
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
Quote
Priyanka:
I am a real fan of the saying - "If you feed a hungry man a fish, you will make his stomach full once. If you teach him how to catch a fish, you will kill his hunger for his lifetime"
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Re: Crossroads
Tracking first 12 spins excluding zero. Win on second spin (3-5-7), on third (13-14-15), on sixth (10-13-16), on seventh (7-8-9) and eighth (28-29-30).
@Falkor alright.
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
Just don't want to be like other forumers, claiming "I know how to win but I will just shit in your topic" ... there are a lot of them in this forum
1. download generous gift from Priyanka called "Cycles.xls"
2. Delete all random numbers
3. Input numbers from ALL Priyanka's videos
4.write all bets that she made in front of numbers
5. Using CL and VdW find relation between those bets
1. download generous gift from Priyanka called "Cycles.xls"
2. Delete all random numbers
3. Input numbers from ALL Priyanka's videos
4.write all bets that she made in front of numbers
5. Using CL and VdW find relation between those bets
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Re: KTF
21.5.16 KTF +60
Code: [Select]
Spin No. Spin Repeat? Non-hit count Progression Result Bank
1 22 37
2 21 36
3 27 35
4 5 34
5 18 33
6 0 32
7 12 31
8 27 R 30
9 15 30
10 5 R 29
11 9 29 1 7 7
12 23 28 1 8 15
13 26 27 1 9 24
14 15 R 26 1 -26 -2
15 5 R 26 2 -52 -54
16 16 26 3 30 -24
17 22 R 25 2 -50 -74
18 15 R 25 3 -75 -149
19 7 25 4 44 -105
20 16 R 24 3 -72 -177
21 6 24 4 48 -129
22 7 R 23 3 -69 -198
23 11 23 4 52 -146
24 11 R 22 3 -66 -212
25 11 R 22 4 -88 -300
26 25 22 5 70 -230
27 24 21 4 60 -170
28 32 20 3 48 -122
29 7 R 19 2 -38 -160
30 1 19 3 51 -109
31 35 18 2 36 -73
32 4 17 1 19 -54
33 22 R 16 1 -16 -70
34 16 R 16 2 -32 -102
35 14 16 3 60 -42
36 36 15 2 42 0
37 26 R 14 1 -14 -14
38 28 14 2 44 30
39 28 R 13 1 -13 17
40 15 R 13 2 -26 -9
41 30 13 3 69 60
42 9 R 12 2 -24 36
43 11 R 12 3 -36 0
44 16 R 12 4 -48 -48
45 19 12 5 120 72
46 35 R 11 4 -44 28
47 34 11 5 125 153
48 3 10 4 104 257
49 33 9 3 81 338
50 2 8 2 56 394
51 9 R 7 1 -7 387
52 18 R 7 2 -14 373
53 6 R 7 3 -21 352
54 12 R 7 4 -28 324
55 18 R 7 5 -35 289
56 3 R 7 6 -42 247
57 25 R 7 7 -49 198
58 11 R 7 8 -56 142
59 1 R 7 9 -63 79
60 11 R 7 10 -70 9
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Re: Crossroads
Sorry forgot to answer that. If a street forms while collecting the 12 numbers we just consider it as one less opportunity to win, and we still use those three numbers for tracking. Example if 1-4-7 hit in the 12 spins and 3, 6 or 9 come along, they can still qualify for betting on 2 or 5 or 8...
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Re: Crossroads
Thanks
As i use the sheet i see streets become available.
On todays sheet we see many of your streets have come, looks good.
I'll work on it much later as i'm going thru 71'000 live spins in blocks of 60 spins, but i'll keep an eye on this topic.
Good luck![:thumbsup:]( "Thumbs-up")
As i use the sheet i see streets become available.
On todays sheet we see many of your streets have come, looks good.
I'll work on it much later as i'm going thru 71'000 live spins in blocks of 60 spins, but i'll keep an eye on this topic.
Good luck
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Re: KTF
The long and winding road!
I need to grow some balls....
Been trying some other methods, and most of them would work better with KTF, but missed courage!
I need to grow some balls....
Been trying some other methods, and most of them would work better with KTF, but missed courage!
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Re: KTF
Yes i can see it can be successful. So how do you know when to begin the count??? Anytime beginning the tracking of 10? Then after your profit target met wait for all 37 numbers to hit before beginning again? Thats how I see it but it seems to have a similar result if you just start the count immediately of 10 after your profit.... i guess there could be many variations like most strategies as with all a degree of luck is evident.
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Re: KTF
What I have found is that when it reaches 12 different numbers not bet (1/3 of numbers....almost) there is a high probability of those numbers repeating so I stop when 12 numbers have been hit (hopefully by then in profit) as a safeguard. Again maybe it could be more profitable to keep going but more repeats will most likely occur and your profit starting to reduce maybe 2-5 numbers later.
Also thinking it may be better to have 1-2 repeats in the last 10 so your chances are higher by a few numbers (even though betting more) as more numbers are covered by your bets? Does that make sense.... that is what I am finding anyway.
Let me know your thoughts...
Also thinking it may be better to have 1-2 repeats in the last 10 so your chances are higher by a few numbers (even though betting more) as more numbers are covered by your bets? Does that make sense.... that is what I am finding anyway.
Let me know your thoughts...
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Re: FOBT - not my style
These score cards you've been posting have you been playing the KTF and profiting or have you just been observing results while playing red and black?
I dont bother with outside bets, i just play on the field.
Once again i'll say, KTF was just to show how you could bet the non-hit of the 37 spin cycle and make £50/+50.
My bets come from watching the trot/count.
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Re: FOBT - not my style
I asked questions because I find it interesting that someone claims to have a cheat for these machines.So who claims to have a cheat for FOBT, be nice to learn of it
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Re: FOBT - not my style
Wont be back for a little while Moto 2 just about to restart
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Re: Food Blog
RG, you make all of us hungry. ![:P]( "Tongue")
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Re: Crossroads
11th game RIP.
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Re: Proposed test on Numbers/cycles - KTF/Random Thoughts inspired
Repeat 1 (1s) > Win > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Win > Repeat 3 (1s+)
-270
-293
Repeat 1 (1s) > Win > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Win > Repeat 3 (0s)
-3697
-3448
Repeat 1 (1s) > Win > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Lose > Repeat 3 (1s+)
-651
-1012
Repeat 1 (1s) > Win > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Lose > Repeat 3 (0s)
-938
-643
Repeat 1 (1s) > Lose > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Win > Repeat 3 (1s+)
-1296
1271
Repeat 1 (1s) > Lose > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Win > Repeat 3 (0s)
-286
-2751
Repeat 1 (1s) > Lose > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Lose > Repeat 3 (1s+)
85
343
Repeat 1 (1s) > Lose > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Lose > Repeat 3 (0s)
-778
-1089
-270
-293
Repeat 1 (1s) > Win > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Win > Repeat 3 (0s)
-3697
-3448
Repeat 1 (1s) > Win > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Lose > Repeat 3 (1s+)
-651
-1012
Repeat 1 (1s) > Win > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Lose > Repeat 3 (0s)
-938
-643
Repeat 1 (1s) > Lose > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Win > Repeat 3 (1s+)
-1296
1271
Repeat 1 (1s) > Lose > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Win > Repeat 3 (0s)
-286
-2751
Repeat 1 (1s) > Lose > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Lose > Repeat 3 (1s+)
85
343
Repeat 1 (1s) > Lose > Repeat 2 (1s+) > Lose > Repeat 3 (0s)
-778
-1089
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Tier et tout with differential betting
In the popular book called "Monte Carlo Anecdotes and Systems of Play", where there are presented many famous systems, the author presents the ''best system'' in his opinion, which is called Tier et tout'' and he claims that the casino would give him thousands of francs in order not to reveal it!!!!
I don't have time to describe it, so I attache the book, so you can see this system on page 147.
Generally, the money management consists of a positive progression which has inside a two-step negative progression.
As money management is genious.
As bet selection he prefers to bet on change of colors.
Now, in my opinion, when we'll fall on a series of colors, we'll face a lot of 3-6 = 9 losing bets and this makes difficult to recover.
So, I was thinking two ways of eliminating this drawback:
1. A simple way is in case of lost a 3-6, we don't continue to bet, until a change of color appears and then we continue, as described at the book.
2. The second thought, if we don't want the above tweak, is to play this system with differential betting, so in this way we can take advantage not only a series of changing colors, but also a series of the same color too.
I tested and the only way of series of lost is a series of 3 same colors interrupted with one of the other color (BBB R BBB R BBB R.....)
What do you think?
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17060.0
I don't have time to describe it, so I attache the book, so you can see this system on page 147.
Generally, the money management consists of a positive progression which has inside a two-step negative progression.
As money management is genious.
As bet selection he prefers to bet on change of colors.
Now, in my opinion, when we'll fall on a series of colors, we'll face a lot of 3-6 = 9 losing bets and this makes difficult to recover.
So, I was thinking two ways of eliminating this drawback:
1. A simple way is in case of lost a 3-6, we don't continue to bet, until a change of color appears and then we continue, as described at the book.
2. The second thought, if we don't want the above tweak, is to play this system with differential betting, so in this way we can take advantage not only a series of changing colors, but also a series of the same color too.
I tested and the only way of series of lost is a series of 3 same colors interrupted with one of the other color (BBB R BBB R BBB R.....)
What do you think?
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17060.0
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Re: Nonsense
There have been multiple users with behavior like a bot. For example, constantly clicking ready but with no bets, for long hours. Why a bot? To collect spins and maybe expoit repeating spin file. If thats their goal, its not going to work as I keep an eye on file progress.
Anyway possible solutions to lurkers:
- delete account (not final solution)
- vote to kick player, by other online players (could be abused)
- ip or isp banning (reasonable solution but not perfect)
- auto kicking with no activity (easy to circumvent)
- visit house and bash player with bat (effective but unrealistic)
- ip approval list (only approved ips can play (solves the problem but creates other problems)
- regular captcha / verification question for flagged accounts (to make sure real person is there. But too easy to create new account
Any other ideas?
Anyway possible solutions to lurkers:
- delete account (not final solution)
- vote to kick player, by other online players (could be abused)
- ip or isp banning (reasonable solution but not perfect)
- auto kicking with no activity (easy to circumvent)
- visit house and bash player with bat (effective but unrealistic)
- ip approval list (only approved ips can play (solves the problem but creates other problems)
- regular captcha / verification question for flagged accounts (to make sure real person is there. But too easy to create new account
Any other ideas?
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
We talked about having cycles. We talked about breaking the equally likely myth and we did succeed in that. We also talked about VdW and saw how it was useless. But still we have not reached our target. So I started going down the route of creating dependencies in play. And then I thought about what Drazen said which is the other PP, Parando’s paradox. Why not use it for creating dependencies, so that we can break the myth around the two facts. Then I thought about the following and went to analyse this a bit more deeper. Why do VdWs fail. Why are we not able to create a situation where we are able to lose one of the pears. Then I thought, I will write down one of them which causes us to lose. I took the following string.
RBBRRBBR
This string leads us to a situation where we are not able to decide B and R as they are equally likely and hence we lose. But how about we change those odds by bringing in another dependent element.
Lets say the spins are 23, 10, 31, 1, 5, 2, 8, 32 which led us to this situation. What if in case of a tie we play all these numbers instead of betting on Red or black? Sounds very illogical. But someone told me once that the probability of a number repeating peaks at this stage. So rationally we have two scenarios one scenario where an AP has to form (definitely yes, but we are not able to decide which colour). Other scenario where we have a peak probability of a number to repeat. This is just one example. I need some empirical simulation to see how it works. When I have some time at hand I will do that. It is just something that occured to me and I dont have any thoughts or guidances on why it should work. I am continuing to look at the possibilities of how we can create such dependencies. If I remember right, I once remembered Bayes publishing something that looks into 100s of such parallel games to see which decision is the best. This is probably a twist on that and the only link that I am struggling to create between these parallel games is a dependency, so that if one is peaking then the other is also peaking.
RBBRRBBR
This string leads us to a situation where we are not able to decide B and R as they are equally likely and hence we lose. But how about we change those odds by bringing in another dependent element.
Lets say the spins are 23, 10, 31, 1, 5, 2, 8, 32 which led us to this situation. What if in case of a tie we play all these numbers instead of betting on Red or black? Sounds very illogical. But someone told me once that the probability of a number repeating peaks at this stage. So rationally we have two scenarios one scenario where an AP has to form (definitely yes, but we are not able to decide which colour). Other scenario where we have a peak probability of a number to repeat. This is just one example. I need some empirical simulation to see how it works. When I have some time at hand I will do that. It is just something that occured to me and I dont have any thoughts or guidances on why it should work. I am continuing to look at the possibilities of how we can create such dependencies. If I remember right, I once remembered Bayes publishing something that looks into 100s of such parallel games to see which decision is the best. This is probably a twist on that and the only link that I am struggling to create between these parallel games is a dependency, so that if one is peaking then the other is also peaking.
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