Understood, thanks!
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Re: Math Question
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Re: Math Question
the highest probability for the first repeater (of any of the previos 6 different numbers) you find {6,10.5792}
this is only statistics !, don't play this
this is only statistics !, don't play this
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Re: The effect of what you post
I don't think the problem is posting systems as much as it is statements like the following:
one bet once a day 1 3 9 with $50 chips win or lose leave, i guarantee youd be up at weeks end
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
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Natural? I guess it could be viewed that way. It simply depends on how you look at it. It's only "natural" when you choose to define a cycle by termination due to a repeating dozen. If I choose to close out a cycle by some other definition then the "naturalness" changes into something else. It all depends on your definition of the term - that was my main point really.Exactly! Sorry I didn't know you tried to make that point before...
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As for the lines, I think Pri plays both lines (6 numbers) and quads. Note that Pri uses the term "quad", and again, this is ambiguous and confusing to some - me in the beginning. I have always heard the term "quad" used as a synonym for "corner", i.e. a 4-number grouping. But Pri uses it as a definition of 9 numbers. Why? Who knows? Best guess - because, excluding the zero, there are 4 ways to create groupings of 9 numbers and since there is no official term for this grouping in roulette as there is no such defined bet it was necessary to define a term so "quad" is what she decided on. Fair enough - but it was never actually stated and we had to figure out from context.Same thing happened to me... I couldn't figure out what everyone meant by "quads" then it hit me later that the board had been divided into 4 (I had never thought of that selection before!)
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Re: The effect of what you post
What.. NO. I'm only saying the ONLY way to beat roulette is to overcome the unfair payouts. Can you change the payouts? No. So you need to change the odds. How you do that is another story. Roulette computers is just one way. I say all the time, TRY SOMETHING ****NEW***Fair doos..but thar red statement on the landing page looks odd to say the least
Imagine a running forum saying " running is bad for you...get a bike"
Looks like a strop which is odd considering you couldnt care less
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An up/down DD system
Morning fellow rascals,
Follow the dozens until dozen 2 hits. What follows it? Dozen 1 or 3?
Say it is 3, then we wait for dozen 2 to hit again and bet on dozens 1 and 2
Should dozen 1 follow, then next time dozen 2 hits, bet on dozens 2 and 3.
Example:
3
3
1
1
2
2 no trigger as we're waiting for a 1 or 3 to follow
1
3
2
2. No trigger
2. No trigger
3
2
1. Trigger, next time bet 2/3
1
2
1. Loss
1
3
2
3. Win
2
1. Trigger
3
3
1
3
2
2. Win
Etc
2
3
2
3
3
1
3
2
1
1
3
3
1
3
3
1
2
3
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17035.0
Follow the dozens until dozen 2 hits. What follows it? Dozen 1 or 3?
Say it is 3, then we wait for dozen 2 to hit again and bet on dozens 1 and 2
Should dozen 1 follow, then next time dozen 2 hits, bet on dozens 2 and 3.
Example:
3
3
1
1
2
2 no trigger as we're waiting for a 1 or 3 to follow
1
3
2
2. No trigger
2. No trigger
3
2
1. Trigger, next time bet 2/3
1
2
1. Loss
1
3
2
3. Win
2
1. Trigger
3
3
1
3
2
2. Win
Etc
2
3
2
3
3
1
3
2
1
1
3
3
1
3
3
1
2
3
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17035.0
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
S S D S S . . . .
80% WINNING BET
80% WINNING BET
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
I mean no offence - I am simply trying to understand what is going on here. Are we going to be led to a way to play with an edge? Or not. Whichever is fine - I just want to know.
I think others would like to know too. But I did fire a shot across Priyanka's bows earlier, in the form of a gentle reminder of the "no baiting" rule on this forum. I guess it's open to interpretation whether you would call what she's doing "baiting", but perhaps we should be charitable (she did give assurances that there would be no more "drip feeding and riddles") and assume that so far, what she's written in this thread is just a fuller and more detailed explanation of the concepts introduced in the earlier thread (and I for one appreciate that).
So perhaps, "patience grasshopper"?
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
Ran a quick test yesterday and it looks like not betting for D saves a lot of hassle. Just because a two dozens bet either loses two units or wins only one. That could be Priyanka´s "losing pears" strategy.
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
BTW playing the vdw I go for the latest possible ap to form. I bet for 7-8-9 even if a furthest back 1-5-9 is in conflict.
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Re: Far off topic :)
I will join guys who asked about the clue, really you could give some more information so that we at least could understand what kind of a clue we are looking for and why))) ![8)]( "Cool")
![???]( "Huh?")
![::)]( "Roll Eyes")
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Re: Trend line break
I also think following the last number drop should work really well with this system.
The same at RNG, here is some statistics :
http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9740.0
- Tuddilue
The same at RNG, here is some statistics :
http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9740.0
- Tuddilue
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Re: Far off topic :)
If you click on the link you'll find the clue. Everyone's looking hard for something which isn't there.
My first thought was to click on the link which I assumed would expand the image (so I could get a better look at what's going on).
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So I'm guessing this is Turbo's way of making the point that just because there's a lot going on in the picture, it doesn't mean there's any clue there at all.
Similarly there are many ways of looking at past spins but none of them will indicate future spins.
My first thought was to click on the link which I assumed would expand the image (so I could get a better look at what's going on).
So I'm guessing this is Turbo's way of making the point that just because there's a lot going on in the picture, it doesn't mean there's any clue there at all.
Similarly there are many ways of looking at past spins but none of them will indicate future spins.
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Re: KTF
18.5.16 KTF +58
Code: [Select]
Spin No. Spin Repeat? Non-hit count Progression Result Bank
1 16 37
2 31 36
3 8 35
4 35 34
5 28 33
6 10 32
7 17 31
8 10 R 30
9 17 R 30
10 21 30
11 26 29 1 7 7
12 3 28 1 8 15
13 4 27 1 9 24
14 3 R 26 1 -26 -2
15 22 26 2 20 18
16 8 R 25 1 -25 -7
17 31 R 25 2 -50 -57
18 29 25 3 33 -24
19 5 24 2 24 0
20 31 R 23 1 -23 -23
21 2 23 2 26 3
22 35 R 22 1 -22 -19
23 16 R 22 2 -44 -63
24 19 22 3 42 -21
25 27 21 2 30 9
26 9 20 1 16 25
27 27 R 19 1 -19 6
28 31 R 19 2 -38 -32
29 6 19 3 51 19
30 3 R 18 2 -36 -17
31 8 R 18 3 -54 -71
32 30 18 4 72 1
33 21 R 17 3 -51 -50
34 36 17 4 76 26
35 22 R 16 3 -48 -22
36 14 16 4 80 58
37 14 R 15 3 -45 13
38 0 15 4 84 97
39 2 R 14 3 -42 55
40 2 R 14 4 -56 -1
41 31 R 14 5 -70 -71
42 24 14 6 132 61
43 21 R 13 5 -65 -4
44 29 R 13 6 -78 -82
45 3 R 13 7 -91 -173
46 14 R 13 8 -104 -277
47 29 R 13 9 -117 -394
48 8 R 13 10 -130 -524
49 1 13 11 253 -271
50 12 12 10 240 -31
51 0 R 11 9 -99 -130
52 24 R 11 10 -110 -240
53 35 R 11 11 -121 -361
54 36 R 11 12 -132 -493
55 27 R 11 13 -143 -636
56 22 R 11 14 -154 -790
57 4 R 11 15 -165 -955
58 3 R 11 16 -176 -1131
59 27 R 11 17 -187 -1318
60 10 R 11 18 -198 -1516
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Re: KTF
+20 profit. Thats my limit per game. +2,000 units to date. Greed is the biggest downfall in my opinion. Keep your profit low per game then you should not get in a deep hole....
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
Thanks for info Turner, maybe there could be Topic with info who has multiple names and which are they?
That would be good, I would love to see who I am supposed to be, as well as who I am now. Should be interesting.
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Marta1: A Stationary Natural Mirror Splits System
Natural Splits reference:
Mirrors: 1/4, 31/34:
2/5,32/35: 3/6,33/36
7/10,25/28: 8/11,26/29: 9/12,27/30
13/16,19/22: 14/17,20/23: 15/18,21/24
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Procedure: Note the newest natural split to show.
Bet that split and its mirror counterpart for up to nine spins.
Stop on a win or after nine consecutive misses.
Example: #10 (newest spin-value)
Bet 7/10, 25/28 for up to nine spins.
Bankroll suggestion: 54 units per one unit base bet. (splits)
(three bankrolls of 18 units)
Win-Target: +10% of the original bankroll amount.
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17048.0
Mirrors: 1/4, 31/34:
2/5,32/35: 3/6,33/36
7/10,25/28: 8/11,26/29: 9/12,27/30
13/16,19/22: 14/17,20/23: 15/18,21/24
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Procedure: Note the newest natural split to show.
Bet that split and its mirror counterpart for up to nine spins.
Stop on a win or after nine consecutive misses.
Example: #10 (newest spin-value)
Bet 7/10, 25/28 for up to nine spins.
Bankroll suggestion: 54 units per one unit base bet. (splits)
(three bankrolls of 18 units)
Win-Target: +10% of the original bankroll amount.
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17048.0
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Re: Marta1: A Stationary Natural Mirror Splits System
I remotely remember I read somewhere that you play System hit and run. Play a system as long as it wins and then take the next one. Is that true? If yes, may i ask how are your results? Profit, Return on Investment,...
Thx and good luck.
R.
Thx and good luck.
R.
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Re: Random Thoughts by Priyanka - A concise reference (version 2)
Thanks guys - but I think Priyanka has put in the most work of all!!! ![:ooh:]( "ooh!")
Here I'm just attempting to put things in better context as everything seems a bit disjointed and lacking in synthesis, so a worthy project imo.
Here I'm just attempting to put things in better context as everything seems a bit disjointed and lacking in synthesis, so a worthy project imo.
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Re: Randomer Thoughts
Why is personal permanence so important as a concept to go through. Why is it important to have a random sequence for your personal permanence. I don't know the answers.
But this is what I think. We started our journey with cycles and certain statistics and distributions associated with these cycles. If our selection process does not result in a random sequence but instead on a predictable pattern will these stats and distribution hold good. Commonsensical answer is it may or may not. But we want them to hold good so that we can do something about it. Like Turner said if we keep on combining 10s then we will be having only cycles of length 1. This is the reason it is important for me to have a random sequence for personal permanence. Whether we place virtual bets or actual bets is outside the equation though.
One quote that I think going to be useful in this process is "even if I add a million zeroes infront of an infinite random sequence then the sequence still remains random". Enough of personal permanence for us to go and explore what else is out there.
But this is what I think. We started our journey with cycles and certain statistics and distributions associated with these cycles. If our selection process does not result in a random sequence but instead on a predictable pattern will these stats and distribution hold good. Commonsensical answer is it may or may not. But we want them to hold good so that we can do something about it. Like Turner said if we keep on combining 10s then we will be having only cycles of length 1. This is the reason it is important for me to have a random sequence for personal permanence. Whether we place virtual bets or actual bets is outside the equation though.
One quote that I think going to be useful in this process is "even if I add a million zeroes infront of an infinite random sequence then the sequence still remains random". Enough of personal permanence for us to go and explore what else is out there.
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