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Are there any other no zero roulette than betvoyager?

March 15, 2016, 4:10 pm
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I made a few RX strategies which have passed 1m random no zero spins.

So I want to have a try on betvoyager.

I downloaded their software. But I only played once in demo mode. Then the software never connect the server successfully.

I don't know why. Maybe it is because my ip is from New Zealand.

Can anybody tell me other  no zero roulette than betvoyager? Thanks a lot.


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Re: 1-4 numbers with MM.

March 15, 2016, 4:54 pm
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Alright, this is my sessions so far. Even if it looses sometimes, the wins, so far, adds up.

Session01: 224u (+24)
Session02: 275u (+75)
Session03: 227u (+27)
Session04: 298u (+98)
Session05: 289u (+89)
Session06: 251u (+51)
Session07: 295u (+95)
Session08: 236u (+36)
Session09: 148u (-52)
Session10: 231u (+31)
Session11: 267u (+67)
Session12: 247u (+47)
Session13: 236u (+36)
Session14: 183u (-17)
Session15: 261u (+61)
Session16: 234u (+34)
Session17: 208u (+8)
Session18: 244u (+44)
Session19: 203u (+3)
Session20: 165u (-35)
Session21: 218u (+18)
Session22: 264u (+64)
Session23: 236u (+36)
Session24: 212u (+12)
Session25: 240u (+40)
Session26: 236u (+36)
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Profit: +928 units
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Re: What new features do you want?

March 15, 2016, 5:07 pm
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Yes there will be realistic betting limits. We can change it however we want as time goes on. First we'll get the basics up and running.

Below is the layout and look we'll be using:

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Re: 1-4 numbers with MM.

March 15, 2016, 5:12 pm
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Quote from: celescliff on Yesterday at 11:54:38 PM
Alright, this is my sessions so far. Even if it looses sometimes, the wins, so far, adds up.

Session01: 224u (+24)
Session02: 275u (+75)
Session03: 227u (+27)
Session04: 298u (+98)
Session05: 289u (+89)
Session06: 251u (+51)
Session07: 295u (+95)
Session08: 236u (+36)
Session09: 148u (-52)
Session10: 231u (+31)
Session11: 267u (+67)
Session12: 247u (+47)
Session13: 236u (+36)
Session14: 183u (-17)
Session15: 261u (+61)
Session16: 234u (+34)
Session17: 208u (+8)
Session18: 244u (+44)
Session19: 203u (+3)
Session20: 165u (-35)
Session21: 218u (+18)
Session22: 264u (+64)
Session23: 236u (+36)
Session24: 212u (+12)
Session25: 240u (+40)
Session26: 236u (+36)
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Profit: +928 units

This is how winning methods are built!!!

Keep up the great work!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: 1-4 numbers with MM.

March 15, 2016, 5:20 pm
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Re: KTF

March 16, 2016, 3:58 pm
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FW
Heres the last 3 days from Jackpot 247.com
All 3 games spins 11-20 more non-hit than repeats. On the 15.3.16 spins 21-30 50/50 with non-hit and repeats. All 3 games end 40th spin in favour of non-hits.
If you want to go for repeats best look over Celticknits replies
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Re: KTF

March 16, 2016, 4:53 pm
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Re: 1-4 numbers with MM.

March 16, 2016, 4:56 pm
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Quote from: amk on Yesterday at 10:08:02 PM
Awesome stuff Celescliff!

Roughly how many total flat bets have you placed so far during your 26 sessions?


Thanks, amk. :)

Sorry, I haven't kept count on that. All the sessions have never been over 50 spins, most have been around 30-40 spins and the repeaters have often come within the first 10-15 spins. The total amount of spins have been around 700 minus 10 spins per session so around 500 flat bets have been made, I would roughly guess, but I'm not sure.
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Re: 1-4 numbers with MM.

March 16, 2016, 5:12 pm
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Very nice idea Celesclif. I am really chuffed to see the results. I also randomly took a set of numbers from Zumma and started playing this. Following is the set of numbers. Do you mind checking if this is how you will play this. Probably I just got unlucky at the first go or I am not getting the way it should be played.

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20									
17									
30									
22									
14									
29									
25									
12									
3									
22	*	BR1	open:	50	u	22			
8									
14	*	BR2 	open:	50	u	14			
30	* 	BR3 	open:	50	u	30			
26									
5									
32									
26	*	BR4 	open:	50	u	26			
21									
12									
36									
11									
1									
37									
28									
36									
24									
27									
32									
27									
11									
5									
25									
22	w	BR1	close:	63	u				
4									
11									
34									
25									
27									
25									
0									
21									
22									
33									
19									
32									
3									
14	w	BR2 	close:	51	u				
7									
33	l	BR3 	close:	14	u	BR4	close:	18	u
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Trend line break

March 16, 2016, 6:33 pm
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As I leant lots from this forum, I just want to share something here.

This is one of my best flat bet system.

Wait a free spin. If number is no more than 18, I will do up trend. if more than 18. I will do down trend.

For example:

Number 1 at first. So I bet 1 unit on 1, if lose, bet 1 unit on 1,2, if lose ,bet 1 unit on 1,2,3, and so on. 

Until  bet 1 unit on 1,2,3,4,5,6, If still unhit, I will increase 1 unit on each number.

So it should be

2 units on 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 keep betting until hit.
2 units on 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
2 units on 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
3 units on 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

I will stop the session at 10 numbers. If hit ,restart from 1 unit on 1 number.

I named it trend line break. 




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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

March 19, 2016, 4:49 pm
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Quote from: tuddilue on Yesterday at 07:07:51 PM
The first game:
I start after 15 unhits. The count is 15+2 so the repeaters will come soon. When I started to bet 1 came directly after.

I then started to get one repeater again. I got it at spin 21..
Here after you can see the trot has more repeaters to come. The ending is 2-3, impressive!


-Tuddilue

Looking at your sheet I am not sure what your bet amounts are.
I am going to do this one game at a time.

Here is the payout sheet betting repeats as I would have done it for your first game.

NOTE: -I never bet any number that has already hit 3 times and I always cover the 0 or in my case 0 and 00, regardless of whether they are included in the initial sequence of numbers or not. This is why my first stake is $17.

-Celtic


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		TUDDILUE GAME 1 19MAR16						
								
S 	#	R	Bet	P	Stake	Won	Net	Total
1 	28							
2	 5							
3	 19							
4 	20							
5 	8	X						
6 	13							
7	 21							
8	 25							
9	 2							
10 	19	R						
11	 1							
12	 32							
13     12							
14 	27							
15 	8	R						
16	 31							
17 	10							
18 	8	R						
19	29							
20 	35							     -Count is 8+3 and looks very good to bet repeats next spin--Will go for 4 Wins
21	 32	R	17	1	17	36	19	19
22	28	R	16	1	16	36	20	39
23	4		15	1	15		-15	24
24	16		15	2	30		-30	-6
25	31	R	15	3	45	108	63	57
26	10	R	14	2	28	72	44	101 --- I would quit here ---- Remember DO NOT GET GREEDY!!!
27	14		13	1	13		-13	88
28	31		13	2	26		-26	62
29	32		13	3	39		-39	23
30	13	R	13	4	52	144	92	115
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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

March 19, 2016, 6:02 pm
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Quote from: tuddilue on Yesterday at 07:07:51 PM

The second game
Here I had hard time to read the trot early so I waited for the average and to bet the 21. Because it is a high average 7+2 I was thinking that the repeaters will come and they did...


-Tuddilue

Very interesting second game.

Note after that third hit on the 8 at spin #14 I reset to the spin following the first occurance of the 8 which is spin #8.
I made this decision because I did not like the fact that 21.4% of the first 14 spins were repeats and also the same number repeat.
As Azim and Winkel and Notto have said this is personal thinking and can not be taught but rather learned over time.
After the next 10 spins we now have 9/10
Another 10 spins and we have a count of 7+2

Here is the payout sheet for Game #2 19Mar16 as I would have played it.

-Celtic

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		TUDDILUE GAME #2 19MAR16						
								
S	 #	R	Bet	P	Stake	 Won	Net	Total
1 	36							
2 	8	X						
3 	11							
4 	7							
5	 31							
6 	28							
7	 8	R						
8 	8	X		Reset to here after spin #14				
9	 18							
10	 13							
11 	36							
12 	5							
13 	9							
14	 8	R						
15 	25							
16 	17							
17	 6				9/10			
18 	6	R						
19	 16							
20	 32							
21	 17	R						
22	 31							
23	 19							
24 	32	R						
25 	15							
26 	7							
27 	12		Count from reset is now 7+2					
28 	0	R	17	1	17	36	19	19
29	6	R	16	1	16	36	20	39
30	32	R	15	1	15	36	21	60
WOULD HAVE GONE FOR FOURTH REPEAT (WIN) BUT RAN OUT OF NUMBERS

As you can see there are decisions to be made as to when to start betting and in this case mine were different for the reasons stated.

-Celtic
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Markee

March 19, 2016, 6:10 pm
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This may be an old method. .
If so apologies

Playing online)
1st # on markee 10, put 1 unit on #10
2nd # 22 put 1 unit on #22 etc...betting all the #'s on markee till markee is full
Always bet  the full markee.
You can stop on profit, your choice.

If minus, refresh markee (clear board)
 Repeat method, putting 2 units on each #

My casino markee holds 11#'s -the max # I bet

If no repeats after 11 #'s
Only 66 units lost.

Fast recovery with this method

Biggest drawdown 106
Biggest bet 4 units

Up 350 units in only 2 hrs
Fun bet..
Played about 20 sessions, not lost one yet  :ooh:

For entertainment purposes only :smile:



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Re: Markee

March 19, 2016, 7:26 pm
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Hello Holymoly,

Thanks for your interesting method and congratulation on your winning.

I tested more than 10 session and it's holding well.

I will continue testing before I play for real tomorrow.

Regards and best wishes.
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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

March 19, 2016, 7:29 pm
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Quote from: tuddilue on Yesterday at 07:07:51 PM

b]The third game[/b]
This was a tricky one. I was betting after the 15 unhits had come and the count was 15+3. But I then stopped. After that it came 5 unhits... But look at 31-40, there the repeaters are. This makes the trot so hard to read. But one hit wonder should have work here as well...

-Tuddilue

Last but not least Game #3 analysis

Interesting that I had to do a reset just like the last game because of a triple hit on one number so early in the sequence.
I take it this is all RNG.
If my B&M wheel acted like this I would look for another casino.

Anyways, here is the payout sheet for game #3 as I would have played it.

-Celtic

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		TUDDILUE GAME #3 19MAR16						
								
S	#	R	Bet	P	Stake	Won	Net	Total
1 	0							
2	 13							
3 	16							
4 	17							
5 	19							
6	 30							
7 	30	R						
8 	4							
9 	1	X						
10 	14			Reset to here after spin #14				
11 	1							
12	 28							
13 	22							
14 	1	R						
15 	12							
16 	26							
17 	20							
18 	24							
19 	17				9/10			
20	 31							
21 	25							
22 	5							
23	 7							
24 	2							
25	 5	R						
26	29							
27 	13							
28	10							
29	18		Count from reset is now 9+4	         -With a count this good I am looking for 5 wins
30	 21		19	1	19		-19	-19
31 	18	R	19	2	38	72	34	15
32	22	R	18	1	18	36	18	33
33	1	R	17	1	17	36	19	52
34	32		16	1	16		-16	36
35	14	R	16	2	32	72	40	76
36	5	R	15	1	15	36	21	97 ----- I would quit here as I decided on 5 wins to begin with
37	24	R	14	1	14	36	22	119
38	1		13	1	13		-13	106
39	8		13	2	26		-26	80
40	16		13	3	39		-39	41

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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

March 20, 2016, 7:39 pm
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Quote from: sniper on Yesterday at 01:22:10 PM

Does it mean you bet on all the numbers in the first 20 spins, single hit plus repeat numbers?

If the 21st spin is a loss, do you add this number to the numbers you are already betting?


Hello Sniper,
Yes exactly! That's the way I do it. I am thinking of maybe not betting the repeaters. I don't really know for now. So I would bet only the numbers that have appeared once. I wonder what may be the stats on numbers repeating 2 times in 10 spins…. Another thing I want to try is to start betting only when I get 4 repeats in 20 spins or more. Example: Right now, the way I do it, is to start betting after spins 20 if I have 4 or less repeats from the first 20 spins. I was thinking about starting to bet only after the 4th repeater if it hasn't appeared in the first 20 spins. Example: If in the first 20 spins I get 3 repeats, I wait for other spins for a 4th repeat and then I start betting, like if at spin 25 I get my 4th repeat, I start betting at spin 26.

If the 21st number is a loss, yes, it is added to the list of numbers that I bet.

Quote from: tuddilue on Yesterday at 03:09:59 PM

I will try to explain the trot that you had question about.
Hope it helps. If not just ask more questions!


Tuddilue, Thanks for the information! It is a little bit more clearer now. I still will go thru the KTF and GUT threads again…. I probably have missed something....

Quote from: tuddilue on Yesterday at 03:09:59 PM

Thanks for how you are playing, really interesting approach!


Sure! No problems!! I love to read about new ideas and new ways of seeing things. So I thought that bringing in my view of the game might add another view to the way we play the game!

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I have tried to play this on Live Dealers but even with 35 seconds it is not enough time to place bets when you are a little bit high in the progression.
The problem with RNG is that where I play I have to place a bet to spin the wheel. I play black and red on a french La Partage wheel. So when the Zero come up, I only lose half my bets.

Here are a little bit of my sessions results:

Session 1: +25
Session 2: +22
Session 3: +28
Session 4: +21
Session 5: +21
Session 6: +19
Session 7: +25
Session 8: +22
Session 9: +22
Session 10: +25
Session 11: +22
Session 12: +21
Session 13: +21
Session 14: +26
Session 15: +10
Session 16: +20
Session 17: +20
Session 18: +22
Session 19: +20
Session 20: +20
Session 21: +19
Session 22: +28
Session 23: +17
Session 24: +20

I want to bring the girlfriend to New York for shopping next Christmas... And it looks like it may actually happen!!

Simon.
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Re: What new features do you want?

March 20, 2016, 7:53 pm
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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

March 20, 2016, 8:11 pm
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"I am thinking of maybe not betting the repeaters. I don't really know for now" >>

Hello SimonZed1..... a bit of FRIENDLY advice. I have tested many many methods over many many years. Anytime you change a rule (regardless of how small), you start fresh.

*ALL* past winning/losing results are gone. You are not plus or minus a thing. It would be unrealistic to keep past winning results IF you change any rules. Glad I could help.

Ken
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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

March 20, 2016, 8:15 pm
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Quote from: MrJ on Today at 03:11:41 AM
"I am thinking of maybe not betting the repeaters. I don't really know for now" >>

Hello SimonZed1..... a bit of FRIENDLY advice. I have tested many many methods over many many years. Anytime you change a rule (regardless of how small), you start fresh.

*ALL* past winning/losing results are gone. You are not plus or minus a thing. It would be unrealistic to keep past winning results IF you change any rules. Glad I could help.

Ken

Yeah. I guess Ill keep it like this for now. Like they say in sports: Why change a winning team...!!

Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Street Betting System

March 20, 2016, 8:27 pm
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Quote from: whoisthewomanme on Yesterday at 11:43:54 PM
Hey Mogul,

I'm starting the betting as soon as I have an outcome that would need at least 4 line bets (some people call them double streets)

If two adjacent streets hit, I will combine those into 1 line bet.

If a street has been hit but neither of the adjacent streets have been, I will use the street closer to 6 or 7 depending on the side of table it is on.

Let's say we have a spin series where street 1, 4, 8, and 11 are hit. This would be turned into the following bets:

1/2
4/5 (could do 3/4 but street 5 is closer to 6)
7/8 (could do 8/9 but street 7 is closer to middle)
10/11 (could do 11/12 but again street 10 is closer to middle street 7)

Hope that clears it up.

Oh and I do not have Zumma

* mar 15 tue game 1-page-001.jpg

Here is an example of a question. This game shows you winning
on the 7th spin.  That means after 6 spins, you saw an opportunity.
It also looks like, despite thinking in terms of "double streets", you
bet street 7 with 8 (????)  but didn't double up on others, since your
profit was +2.

* mar 15 tue game 2-page-001.jpg

Here's another one. Spin #6 was where you got in, and somehow
you only lost 4 units on the 1st bet (out of 6 streets bet?).

Not sure. Can you explain?
The original was was clear (but this has way more
betting ops)

Thanks


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