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Re: Grassroots offspring....raymanz tweak

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Hello all. For those who don't like the marty (1-3-9), since we do get a LOT of 1st or 2nd bet win, we can use a shortened Fibo (shortened meaning it starts 1-2-... instead of 1-1-2-...).

Here's how I play it:
  • I use the Fibo sequence 1-2-3-5-8-13, total cost 64 (I know, it costs more than 1-3-9, feel free to shorten or lenghten it to suit your bankroll). My BR for 1 session is 80 units (see point 3 for the reason), total BR is 240 units.
  • On the 1st win AFTER a loss, I'll parlay my win on the next bet (so if I won the 8 bet, on my next bet I'll bet 12); if I win the parlay, it's back to 1 unit (unless the parlay win was at the 13 bet, then I'll bet 5 afterwards to finish recouping). I always round up on the parlay bet when required. If you LOSE the parlay bet you simply continue the progression as if you didn't get the 1st win.
  • Since I play on a Euro wheel, I only cover the 0 when my bet is OVER 5 unit on each dozen (or if the last number hit was 26-0-32). The reason I do this is because in order to NOT lose too much profit when betting 0, you also have to increase your base bets by the same amount, which means every 1 unit on 0 costs me 3 to bet; when you win it's OK but when you lose you now have to bet 3 times as much to cover the 0 in order to recoup the loss on the previous bet. Of course, when your base unit is say $15 or more, you can probably take the small loss of a few $$ and simply bet the 0.
  • WHEN you lose the progression (for it WILL happen), what I do first is change table, then for the next 10 winning mini sessions (10 times in profit for a bet, so either a win on 1st bet or a parlay win) I'll double my starting unit BUT I'll remove a step from my progression in case of a loss (thankfully, no back to back losses so far).
  • Last part of my money management: as stated, my total BR is 3 times a session amount (so 240 units); when I get to 4 times (so 320 units), I'll withdraw one BR (I play online), and I'll up my unit value by 1.

The reason I use a 6 step Fibo is simply because I used to play this against 1-2-3-a-b-c (where a b and c are columns), with the aim of winning 6 units and then switching table; it was doing OK but on the Euro wheel 1-2-3 and a-b-c happened often enough to barely be profitable. Then I played against 1-3-2-a-c-b which was a bit better. But with thist latest tweak (only if the last 3 dozen or column are unique), it's going MUCH better. I do have a slight variation though: when I get a trigger (let's say 2-1-3), I'll play it against dozens AND columns after (so I'll play against 2-1-3-b-a-c), or if my trigger on columns (let's say c-b-a), I'll play columns first (so c-b-a-3-2-1).

So here are my results so far (each number is a "session" which can be between 2 tables and 8 tables, each days is 3-5 sessions):
1. Starting BR of 750 units (so my base unit is 3)
2. 789 units (vs 1-2-3-a-b-c)
3. 710 units (vs 1-2-3-a-b-c), a few wins then a loss followed by recoup session
4. 775 units (vs 1-2-3-a-b-c)
5. 868 units (vs 1-2-3-a-b-c)
6. 875 units (vs 1-2-3-a-b-c), loss right off the bat, recovery session and enough wins for a small profit
7. 964 unist (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b), withdraw 240 units, new BR now 724 units and base unit is now 4
8. 824 units (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b))
9. 946 units (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b))
10. 859 units (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b), few wins, a loss, recovery
11. 926 units (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b)
12. 1002 units (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b)
13. 1197 units (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b)
14. 1302 units (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b), withdraw 320 units, new BR now 982 units and base unit is now 5
15. 1002 units (vs 1-3-2-a-c-b), lots of wins, a loss, recovery and a few more wins
16. 1197 units (vs 3 last if unique) (all wins on 1st bet this one)
17. 1304 units (vs 3 last if unique)
18. 1513 units (vs 3 last if unique)
19. 1690 units (vs 3 last if unique), withdraw 400 units, new BR NOW 1290 UNITS and base unit is now 6
20. 1398 units (vs 3 last if unique)
21. 1566 units (vs 3 last if unique)

So far, with my 750 units deposit, I withdrew 960 units (so 210 profit) and I still have 1566 units in the account. All this is from real money play online on Live dealer Euro wheels, over the last 6 days.

PS: Sorry for the long post.

Now this is how you test a system.

Please keep us updated. Much appreciated!
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