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Re: Why I called MrJ Names: You be the Judge....

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Did he, or did he not read at least ten pages? There is a contradiction here.  Misrepresenting what the facts may be doesn't help.  He didn't like what he saw.  MJ been around long time with a history of posting all rules to proposed systems.  PA new, unproven, and promising to leave soon. Easy to think he just getting jollies from playing preacher.  Good for you to buy him some time, in case anything worthwhile.  Other ways to handle situations like this, if it did come down to name calling.  Did it? If mod threatens delete, save anything in thread worthwhile, repost, and lobby to get PA (whomever) back. If PA won't come back cause of delete, maybe he wasn't serious to begin with.  My feeling is people ought to be allowed to preach if they generously service the thread, answer all questions promptly, showing that they are making some effort.  That was not the case some months ago when I complained (I don't complain in PMs ever) about a preacher who was vague, careless with English (his first language) , slow to respond to questions (if at all) and was contradicting within the thread and also contradicting his known persona.  If PA is given enough time maybe someone generous like ignatius will make and test (and chart) some method from some of the ideas. Given enough rope PA could hang himself too...if/when it becomes obvious its more about the thrill of attention getting mechanisms than it is about sharing something people could actually use.  I did think it was a little early to shut it down and was glad you were lobbying to keep.  Still, got to keep your wits.  Have a sense of humor.  I never did understand why people post all rules to a method without any faith it would work long term having only tested a few spins.  So there's a downside to rules-posters too (its not sacred). Great for the casinos though.  Likewise there are downsides to pure preachers who never really disclose anything clear enough the average mind can't understand...stringing out the breadcrumbs past even the patient.  Class references pitting experienced members against newbies who need milk is not helpful, IMO.  Playing loose with the term "truth" ("truth hurts") not helpful. Why do people have to use the term Holy Grail, inevitably to use it in vain or jest. Why not just announce "my sacred secret fishing hole".  People don't know what grail means or what holy means, so why use it? Anyways, to pay for your wasted time, you could just use the method MJ posted to make a ton of money, HG or not. Then call it even.

Well said.

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