Probably the last opportunity for Rossi this season, looking good so far, anyone but MarcNot bad for an old boy, he's just got to get off the line now,LOL
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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)
-Notto
Thank you for the numbers Notto.
I have not posted for a while but with todays numbers I thought it was time to say something because this is a great test for anyone wanting to play repeats properly.
More and more I have started to incorporate G.U.T. tracking into my betting decisions.
Here I would have started betting at spin 17.
After spin 20 I used to wait for either two more non-hits to come or the first repeat in the next 2 spins to come before continuing to bet.
Had I done that with these numbers I would still have had a profit of $61 at spin 27
If, however, I watch the GUT tracking and wait for a crossing after spin 20 I would have hit my Win/Stop and made $88 at spin 27.
The crossing happens at spin 23/24.
Just thought I would post this for those interested and following WTF.
-Celtic
This subject came up a few weeks ago.....you are giving out the RULES after you have seen the numbers, I'm confused. Any person can say they are in the plus AFTER seeing the numbers.
Ken
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Re: New Tool - Repeats
This is very relevant to what I am currently looking at right now.
Thanks very much. Its perfect![:thumbsup:]( "Thumbs-up")
Thanks very much. Its perfect
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Re: KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)
Celts has away to bet for a repeat which he started in KTF topic,so he dry tests to the Jackpot247.com airball numbers.
Is it sour grapes that he can find away to catch repeats for less than 18#'s.
Is it sour grapes that he can find away to catch repeats for less than 18#'s.
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Re: Moto GP
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he's just got to get off the line
And stay on for more than 2 laps !!!
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Re: Has roulette been beat? Yes? Thats awesome!!
Hey turbo
I raise you a chip
Literally laughed out loud
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I raise you a chip
Literally laughed out loud
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Re: Has roulette been beat? Yes? Thats awesome!!
Damn, I don't think I can beat that one lol
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Re: Has roulette been beat? Yes? Thats awesome!!
Have you been the B+M Mr J if you have been did you beat roulette or did it beat you ![:lol:]( "LoL")
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Re: Has roulette been beat? Yes? Thats awesome!!
'eh
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Re: Has roulette been beat? Yes? Thats awesome!!
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Re: What method is this?
Anyway....back to the method, is for the infamous/famous 2's company??
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Re: Will you ever acknowledge the existence of the Grail witout VB?
Think I need to read through the Pri thread(s), thanks Pri ![:)]( "Smiley")
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Re: Multiplayer roulette ready
Hi Steve, Id like to make a suggestion. I currently stand 51st ( Go me!) I like to know my current standing so have to keep flicking between the site and the overall leader board. What would be great would be if there was a window on the main page telling me my current standing and it updated as I went along. This isn't needed perhaps for the top 20 as they can see theirs already there.
Just a thought.
BA.
) I like to know my current standing so have to keep flicking between the site and the overall leader board. What would be great would be if there was a window on the main page telling me my current standing and it updated as I went along. This isn't needed perhaps for the top 20 as they can see theirs already there.Interesting idea - It would probably be hard to program though.
Have the normal 1-20 as now - but the 21st spot on the chart could be the user's
"line on the overall chart". Would make sense.
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Re: Multiplayer roulette ready
^^ or have the players ranking in brackets beside their username whilst online??
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Re: sequence of 123. computer savvy testers with many real wheel spins needed
You should see something else here.
The probability of winning on a single dozen is ≈33%.
Now you have 123 pattern 6905 times. So 6905 times you will bet on dozen 1 for the pattern to repeat, and you win 2198 times. 2198 out of 6905 equals to 31.83%.
Going further.
You have 123 1 pattern 2198 times. So 2198 times you bet on dozen 2 for the 123 pattern to repeat, and you win 707 times. 707 out of 2198 equals to 32.16%.
216/707=30.55%
Sorry, I'm not good at explaining things, and I'm not really good at math, just trying to demonstrate what you have probably heard a million times. The odds never change, spins are always independent, patterns are just illusions, etc.
The probability of winning on a single dozen is ≈33%.
Now you have 123 pattern 6905 times. So 6905 times you will bet on dozen 1 for the pattern to repeat, and you win 2198 times. 2198 out of 6905 equals to 31.83%.
Going further.
You have 123 1 pattern 2198 times. So 2198 times you bet on dozen 2 for the 123 pattern to repeat, and you win 707 times. 707 out of 2198 equals to 32.16%.
216/707=30.55%
Sorry, I'm not good at explaining things, and I'm not really good at math, just trying to demonstrate what you have probably heard a million times. The odds never change, spins are always independent, patterns are just illusions, etc.
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Re: Multiplayer roulette ready
Small change done, try now
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FOBT - not my style
As a new member to this forum I have had questions and thus far my questions have been responded to promptly which for that I am grateful.
I think its only right I give you all the opportunity to see my method of thinking.
Firstly I like to play live roulette as then you can play against maths and probabilities rather than playing against software. I find it very hard to believe that there is any way to beat FOBT as they are not made to spit out random numbers they are made to spit out one of two results WIN or LOSE. I used to play ladbrooks original roulette often and would bet £10 on number 5 spin after spin. For the first few months it worked very well and some times I could come out £800-1200 profit from the four machines (most shops have 4).
The downfall came when I thought I had cracked it. Those who sit behind the desk can see how much the shop has taken, how much each machine ha taken, how much the shop has given and how much each machine has given. A girl I used to know behind the desk would tell me how much has went in and how much has went out (which now I believe to be irrelevant when looking at it on a daily basis).
If you could get access to the data that the guys can see behind the desk then surely you could analyse the figures and find te tipping point of when the machines/shop is ready to pay out.
Today I play at ladbrookes and see one man playing machine £50spins and lose, lose ,lose. Joe bloggs comes along and turns £1.80 into £21.60 (he looked like all his christmas had come at once).
I believe with FOBT the figures is where the cheat can be found.
For example if machine A has taken 1000 and only given 250 then that machine Is bursting at the seams and its time to bet £10 on number 5.
But if machine B has taken 250 but gave out 1000 then this has cancelled machine As bursting seams.
FOBT does not really interest me as software isn't random and has no probabilities to play with.
LET'S TALK LIVE ROULETTE
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16930.0
I think its only right I give you all the opportunity to see my method of thinking.
Firstly I like to play live roulette as then you can play against maths and probabilities rather than playing against software. I find it very hard to believe that there is any way to beat FOBT as they are not made to spit out random numbers they are made to spit out one of two results WIN or LOSE. I used to play ladbrooks original roulette often and would bet £10 on number 5 spin after spin. For the first few months it worked very well and some times I could come out £800-1200 profit from the four machines (most shops have 4).
The downfall came when I thought I had cracked it. Those who sit behind the desk can see how much the shop has taken, how much each machine ha taken, how much the shop has given and how much each machine has given. A girl I used to know behind the desk would tell me how much has went in and how much has went out (which now I believe to be irrelevant when looking at it on a daily basis).
If you could get access to the data that the guys can see behind the desk then surely you could analyse the figures and find te tipping point of when the machines/shop is ready to pay out.
Today I play at ladbrookes and see one man playing machine £50spins and lose, lose ,lose. Joe bloggs comes along and turns £1.80 into £21.60 (he looked like all his christmas had come at once).
I believe with FOBT the figures is where the cheat can be found.
For example if machine A has taken 1000 and only given 250 then that machine Is bursting at the seams and its time to bet £10 on number 5.
But if machine B has taken 250 but gave out 1000 then this has cancelled machine As bursting seams.
FOBT does not really interest me as software isn't random and has no probabilities to play with.
LET'S TALK LIVE ROULETTE
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16930.0
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Re: KTF
Notto,
Thanks for the information!!
Loving your post and results. Had a read of the GUT....very confussing!! haha!
Your method seems very simple thou which i like, when you say you play in the bookies on the machines I take it this is RNG? Like some people have said betting on live wheel you only get 60 seconds (ish) between spins/bets which would make tracking/placing bets harder.
I had a few questions if you dont mind.
1) What bank roll do you suggest?
2) What is your stop point? i.e 5,6,7,8,9x? (Losing Streak?)
3) When you have a repeat in the first 10 spins i have noticed in your results you simple just bet the non-hit numbers (i.e 10 spins, 1 repeat = bet 28 numbers, 10 spins, 2 repeats = bet 29 numbers?
4) Any other useful info?
Thanks again in advantage.
i will answer this, only because i asked notto the same exact questions
-$800 bank with $1 units is sufficient and has only busted one time in over 125 games
-no CLEAR stop point some use $400 or you can go the entire $800
-after 10 spins, bet the non hits
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Don't Work Hard Work Smart
LIVE ROULETTE
I feel live roulette is where we stand the best chance of being victorious. I have played with RRSYS system which does work well if you have a huge bank role. Or be very patient in finding your bias wheel and dealer.
I am aiming to compose a bet selection which with a progression will give you the edge. The first one I have which works fairly well is betting on the two opposite dozens and the 2 opposite coloums the last number that just appeared, the reason I like strategy is that you have
5 numbers = 4unit lose
16 numbers = 1unit lose
16 numbers = 2unit win
Play mini games of 20 spins and you find 8/10 times you will finish with a positive balance.
The strategy I am working on at the minute is one where I am able to divide the 36 numbers into my own 3 sets of 12. I'm thinking around the wheel from To the right of 0
32,15,19 = A
4,21,2 = B
25,17,34 = C
6,27,13 = A
And so fourth.
I am also looking at way to split each dozen into A,B,C.
My thinking is that if I am able to find a appropriate split. Then I am able to act on what HAS happened and not what hasn't happened.
For example let's say we have split the wheel as per above.
The numbers around the wheel translated into A,B,C would look like this
AAA BBB CCC AAA BBB CCC AAA BBB CCC AAA BBB CCC
We could observe the wheel until one of these sections (A,B,C) has appeared 3times in a row. We would then place our chips on the remaining 24 numbers (we never play 0).
I think roulette can be tamed with this method of thinking but it may well take a man a lot smarter than I.
We need to break the table into OUR sections and turn the game of roulette into the players game. A game where as we are not playing against the roulette wheel. The roulette wheel is playing against us.
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16931.0
I feel live roulette is where we stand the best chance of being victorious. I have played with RRSYS system which does work well if you have a huge bank role. Or be very patient in finding your bias wheel and dealer.
I am aiming to compose a bet selection which with a progression will give you the edge. The first one I have which works fairly well is betting on the two opposite dozens and the 2 opposite coloums the last number that just appeared, the reason I like strategy is that you have
5 numbers = 4unit lose
16 numbers = 1unit lose
16 numbers = 2unit win
Play mini games of 20 spins and you find 8/10 times you will finish with a positive balance.
The strategy I am working on at the minute is one where I am able to divide the 36 numbers into my own 3 sets of 12. I'm thinking around the wheel from To the right of 0
32,15,19 = A
4,21,2 = B
25,17,34 = C
6,27,13 = A
And so fourth.
I am also looking at way to split each dozen into A,B,C.
My thinking is that if I am able to find a appropriate split. Then I am able to act on what HAS happened and not what hasn't happened.
For example let's say we have split the wheel as per above.
The numbers around the wheel translated into A,B,C would look like this
AAA BBB CCC AAA BBB CCC AAA BBB CCC AAA BBB CCC
We could observe the wheel until one of these sections (A,B,C) has appeared 3times in a row. We would then place our chips on the remaining 24 numbers (we never play 0).
I think roulette can be tamed with this method of thinking but it may well take a man a lot smarter than I.
We need to break the table into OUR sections and turn the game of roulette into the players game. A game where as we are not playing against the roulette wheel. The roulette wheel is playing against us.
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16931.0
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